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10.6.3 OpenGL regressions.

Phoronix posted interesting article about opengl performance decreases in 10.6.3 comparing to 10.6.2.

Just one graph from there:
result

It’s nvidia 9400m.

Comments

  1. avian
    March 31st, 2010 | 3:31 pm

    Do we know if its across the board with all nvidia cards? ATI effected too?

  2. March 31st, 2010 | 4:03 pm

    Cinebench 11 approves that!

  3. eli
    March 31st, 2010 | 4:05 pm

    It’s weird, I use an XFX 4890 flashed in a 2008 MacPro. Motion is flying with 10.6.3 compared to 10.6.2.

  4. DANIEL MALDONADO
    March 31st, 2010 | 4:22 pm

    ATI too?

  5. crazyASD
    March 31st, 2010 | 7:27 pm

    Hmm… Very strange! For me many applications brings dramatically performance boost in most OpenGL applications. Xbench says OpenGL result 148 in 10.6.3, instead 84 in 10.6.1

    My Macbook pro have 256mo NV8600GT

  6. flamenco
    March 31st, 2010 | 7:31 pm

    crazyASD: I have the same situation. Since the update to 10.6.3 and Application Support update Motion is running faster.

  7. DANIEL MALDONADO
    March 31st, 2010 | 7:31 pm
  8. zoliky
    March 31st, 2010 | 9:14 pm

    strange, opengl is twice as fast for me (hackintosh / 8500gt)

  9. Akshunhiro
    March 31st, 2010 | 11:20 pm

    I’ve also noticed a big improvement on my hack pro. Just ran xbench after seeing this and scores in OpenGL are up 60 points. Gone from 103.90 frames/sec to 188.13 frames/sec.

  10. JustinCase
    April 1st, 2010 | 12:39 am

    Great! Netkas Rulez 😀

  11. Nemes
    April 1st, 2010 | 1:24 am

    Is it possible the regression is only for the 9400M then? This would be terrible overall since so many Macs use that as their primary graphics, but since Hack users are almost universally using discrete graphics, we’re getting a nice performance boost.

  12. Dave
    April 1st, 2010 | 2:28 am

    I saw a nice boost too. This X-Plane graph might be inaccurate or at least an uncommon result. I went from 190 to 212 in Xbench scores with a 9500gt corei7.

  13. KariNeko
    April 1st, 2010 | 2:49 am

    Expose is even smoother here with my GTX 260 than it was ever before with 10.6.0-2.

  14. sea
    April 1st, 2010 | 4:32 am

    Same here !!

    10.6.2 — 207.21 Fps

    10.6.3 — 363.26 Fps !!

  15. machinist
    April 2nd, 2010 | 2:39 am

    Same here, superficially. Xbench reports:
    10.6.2 ~160 fps
    10.6.3 ~250 fps

    However. Open glViewer has 10.6.2 reporting more fps across the board then 10.6.3, though it does now have a listing for opengl 4.0 and 3.0 has changed from being 65% to 91% compliant.

    Cinebench concurs with these results. I have not tried the phoronix utility.”Galaxies” is roughly the same with either 10.6 iteration.

    Opengl information utility has only 16 compute units listed for each of the 9800s, regardless of the version of OSX.

    Mitchde has a graphics tool for testing on the nvidia board at insanely. Both G92 chips in the 9800 GX2 work together in his exercise, but score the same in 10.6.3 as in 10.6.2 I was unaware the 9800 GX2 could function in this manner in OSX.

    Xbench is an old utility which hasn’t been updated in quite some time. Seem to remember it only tests opengl 1.2 or something like that. Perceptions of speed improvements aside (and I have none), seems like performance has declined with these new drivers?

    Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
    Q6600 @ 3.24 gHz (360×9)
    evga 9800 GX2 (efi string/pciefi 10.6)
    4 gigs 1066 Reaper
    8 x WD 2500 YD-01NVB1
    800w BFG ES
    Xig S1283
    WUSB54GC wifi dongle
    20″ $10 Box Fan & a no name huge case with the side removed.
    10.6.3 (64-bit kernel)

  16. Marucins
    April 2nd, 2010 | 5:33 am

    nVidia GTX285

    Xbench 10.6.2

    Quartz Graphics Test 419.22
    Line 326.11 21.71 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    Rectangle 416.21 124.26 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    Circle 350.17 28.54 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    Bezier 367.71 9.27 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
    Text 1133.10 70.88 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test 179.47
    Spinning Squares 179.47 227.67 frames/sec
    User Interface Test 619.93

    Xbench 10.6.3

    Quartz Graphics Test 341.11
    Line 261.81 17.43 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
    Rectangle 330.02 98.53 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
    Circle 281.84 22.97 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
    Bezier 313.65 7.91 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
    Text 932.65 58.34 Kchars/sec
    OpenGL Graphics Test 205.49
    Spinning Squares 205.49 260.68 frames/sec
    User Interface Test 522.14

  17. Andreas / mitch germany
    April 2nd, 2010 | 8:25 am

    i would better use the OpenGLExtensionsviewer as Benchmark /Tab Test) for OpenGL. Xbench is very old and uses only OpenGL up to 1.1 features.
    For driver diff checks switch Multisampling (FSAA) OFF and Anithro OFF.
    For GPU bench use both ON at max. values.

    Has anyone tried to use my smalluxGPU with 10.6.3 (with 10.6.3 ATI/NV drivers , not patched or older for ATI 4xxx) ? Its an good OpenCL gpu benchmark .
    http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/33632/smallluxgpu

  18. vuka
    April 3rd, 2010 | 10:39 am

    oo, very bad….decreases open gl for update 10.6.3….

  19. chris
    April 3rd, 2010 | 2:26 pm

    Does anybody know what happened to the 64bit version of the intel x3100 driver?

  20. Gusar
    April 3rd, 2010 | 5:22 pm

    ??????????? ?? ?????? ????? ???????????????? ??????? ? ??????????. ?? ????. ???? ?????.

  21. April 4th, 2010 | 4:33 am

    is anyone compared 10.6.3 with 10.5.8 ?

  22. proboscisjoe
    April 8th, 2010 | 8:06 pm

    After upgrading my test HD to 10.6.3, I found that my secondary display (40″ sony bravia) was showing a distorted image. Distorted in that the image would appear wavy and noisy. After a few minutes the image would settle into a static state, only to distort again after some time.

    I use a 4870. Reverting the ATI-related kexts back to their 10.6.2 resolved the issue. I did not test the performance of opengl though… sucks that I have to miss out on the benefits because of this issue. 🙁

  23. KWS
    April 8th, 2010 | 10:53 pm

    On my 3 hacks theres
    with 8600 GT a increase from about 90 to 180,
    with 7900 GS a decrease from about 170 to 80
    with 7300 GT a decrease from about 160 to 70 …

  24. Daniel Maldonado
    April 12th, 2010 | 9:16 pm
  25. Viking
    April 24th, 2010 | 1:05 pm

    Major improvement on my nVidia 9800GT, too. The Xbench OpenGL score went from 108 to 187.

  26. gino
    May 5th, 2010 | 3:09 pm

    hi with which program can test my framerate? 🙂

  27. Marucins
    May 16th, 2010 | 5:50 am

    Problem with my GTX285 + games

    After start game like Starcraft III / Worcraft III on the screen show me
    http://a.imagehost.org/0928/IMG_0224.jpg

    …i put a movie link, recorded at phone http://i.imagehost.org/download/0674/20100514_3

    Any know how to fixt this problem?

  28. Ian
    June 9th, 2010 | 3:44 pm

    I bought a mac pro with a flashed xfx 4890. I am getting very poor results for OpenGL in xbench like 60 something. (I’m not there right now). That’s even lower than the stock x1900. I should be getting better scores than that shouldn’t I? Is there something I can do like flash it again or is it because I’m using 10.5.8 leopard maybe? Please help.

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